A Surprise Conversation
Sunday night 04-07-13
Church By Phone
Pastor Jeremy Mills (at the Wisdom Center)
and Miss Amy Lira are joining us on the call:
And they’re going to share about “a surprise conversation”.
Dr. Murdock says he’s feeling our prayers. :-)
Yesterday, flew to Tulsa, OK and had a 1-hour mtg
with the ministry’s partners.
And then flew on to Kansas City, MO
Where Chris & his Pastor, Robert Malone.
Michael Salazar’s father brought his car
and Michael, his wife, and father were
just a blessing.
An hour and 45minutes late, Dr. Murdock
got to Omaha, NE at 8:45pm, and
everybody waited, and they went til 10:15pm.
Pastor Kenneth Davis is a fire-house for God,
what a blessing this morning.
Dr. Murdock would like for us to pray over the
North Korea threat, and for our leaders.
By the way, tomorrow Dr. Murdock will launch his
podcast – where he’ll do his “World View”
>> He’s a very keen viewer of world events.
>> There’s more going on than we know.
>> But there could be a surprise conversation
that silences this.
Dr. Murdock asks that we come into agreement with
him that the Lord “let the disloyal bring disruption”.
Father, I come boldly to Your throne tonight on behalf of
our world. I ask You to give President Obama, all of the
leaders connected to the Free World. Put a “Daniel” close
to their ear. We come into covenant that the shield of
loyalty would be stripped from North Korea. Take the lid
off the mutiny–and let there be such a stripping away of
protection, that this escalation of hatred towards South
Korea–I ask for a swift interception of their nuclear threat.
I ask, in the Name of Jesus, that a Christian intercede.
We ask that you would silence this demonic man that is
full of demon spirits. Give the President of South Korea
great wisdom. Give courage to our President Obama. And
allow him to be bold–and cover with the Blood, our Christians
in Israel, our Christians in South Korea. I ask that You give
the Christians in South Korea profound wisdom, knowing that
their brethren around the world are praying for them. We’ve
got preachers right now in South Korea under constant threat.
I ask that you give protection to the underground churches
in China. Father, I ask that every leader in China would
have an awakening of their conscience–and of every man
that’s ever been in Your Presence. I decree surprise conversations
in South Korea. I decree surprise conversations in Jesus’s Name.
Amen. Praise God.
It’s real important to learn how to talk to God effectively.
If you’re going to be effective, be clear–be specific in what you want.
Just like “taking the hedge” of protection off of North Korea.
A word is a “door” or a “wall”.
Every word you speak is a door or a wall.
Your conversations close doors or they open doors.
Develop a meticulous sensitivity about what you discuss with God.
Dr. Murdock’s asked Pastor Jeremy, and
Miss Amy Lira to join us here on Church By Phone.
By the way, in the next 48 hours, until Dr. Murdock leaves
Tuesday, any partner who sows a seed of $100 or more
on the website will receive the entire collection on a
You are one conversation away
from a miracle every day of your life.
God schedules miracles by conversations of expectation.
The well of Samaria–an entire city was saved.
One conversation took place with Phillip.
Spirit-filled men initiate conversation.
Spirit-filled leaders initiate questions.
Remember: a question is a door.
Until you ask questions, others control your life.
Nothing matters as much as a question.
A question proves your passion, documents your honor.
A question is proof of humility because it proves you’re
reaching. And a reacher creates changes.
The most helpless human in the world is a non-reacher.
You can create a suprise conversation with an apology.
You can call somebody you owe a debt to, have a surprise
conversation and ask to change the details of the contract.
Every husband should have a surpirse conversation with his wife
to explain the secrets of his heart.
I know that every person cannot be trusted.
You must be careful of trusting the wrong person:
99% of the problems in life come through trusting
an unworthy person.
Don’t trust the wrong person with your secrets.
But there’s something very powerful about a surprise conversation.
…tonight is critial for somebody.
A surprise conversation can stop a suicide attempt.
A surprise conversation can stop pain, remove cancer.
A surprise conversation can take the cloud of depression
off of your life.
Dr. Murdock doesn’t do well with silence.
He longs for meaningful, trustworthy, significant conversation.
Is there anything more satisfying than a meaningful conversation
with someone you can trust?
The most comforting place on earth is in the presence of
a non-dangerous person.
You may need to reassure somebody.
God gave Dr. Murdock a surprise conversation
about “The Timothy House”.
Hank & Brenda Kunneman
>> Oral Roberts said that Hank Kunneman
was the most accurate prophet he had met
during his lifetime.
Hank told Dr. Murdock at lunch that there would be
a paradigm shift in his ministry:
The Timothy House:
>> Where his interns would live and train for minstry.
Within 90 days, God will give Dr. Murdock
A Timothy House to train Holy Ghost people
for the ministry.
A surprise conversation. :-)
Father, I claim surprise conversations in the next 48 hours
unlike anything we’ve had. Somebody’s husband is going to
come home and take his rightful place as the leader of that
household. Somebody’s going to have a conversation in the
next 7 days, with a college, they’re going to receive a
scholarship worth thousands and thousands of dollars.
Somebody’s about to get a raise because of a surprise
Father, I ask You to receive our seeds for the Gospel. Between
now and Tuesday night, receive every seed planted on the website–
every seed planted in The Wisdom Center. Every seed–give us
A surprise conversation as our #1 harvest, in Jesus’s Name, for
Your glory. Amen.
To sow (besides Button 8 on the website), call:
The Scriptural number for “New”, “change”, “creativity” is “8”
There is somebody that has a reveleation about “The
Timothy House”. This is a God-thing with you. Someone
has a Word from God–not speculation. Drop a private
word to his email: DrMike@churchbyphone.com
Yes, he will be live tomorrow evening at 9pm CST.
Miss Amy Lira #1
Miss Amy Lira, just turned 21 years old, God has put
a remarkable mantle of wisdom on her life:
The surprise conversation is so huge, and she’s seen the glory
of it take place right in front of her. She says, “It is just God’s
way of showing off.”
/end Miss Amy Lira #1
It’s a believable harvest.
I like to only pray about things I can believe.
So I pick out a harvest that’s very believable for my faith.
I work with my faith, whether it’s at a “2” or a “10”
Because God doesn’t use His love to sculpture your future–
He uses my faith to build my future.
God uses my pain to create a change.
And God works with my faith to create a change.
Faith creates every significant change.
And any conversation that unleashes your faith is working for you.
Doubt creates losses as quickly as faith creates multiplication.
The Timothy House – where the interns will live
Young missionaries that are trained at the house.
Somebody just got an answer to prayer:
Somebody just got an answer as to where
they leave their money when they die…
“A surprise conversation to me, is really about opportunity…”
You never know who’s going to slip into your life and have
conversation with you.
And God always works through people.
If we can learn to discern–divine–a supernatural, surprise,
conversation, will lead us into the future God has created
for us. Our future is going to come through the Divine seed
of surprise conversation.
What Dr. Murdock is teaching us tonight is extremely
critical in the lives of the believer.
Whenever God does something, He’s going to speak.
And when He speaks to us (through a man or a woman
of God) we must learn to discern that.
A surprise conversation happens through the Divine
windows of Heaven being opened. And as God begins
to speak to us–as we embrace that conversation–it’s
there, whatever God has prepared for us.
For our future.
For our healing.
For our prosperity.
Whatever it might be.
With Divine conversation, you can think of so many things:
Divine access – the access it takes to be before a man of God.
The surprise conversation that Abraham had with God, when
he began to intercede on behalf of a nation. Look at the Divine
opportunity he had to speak with God–there was Divine judgement
on the way. God was literally walking the earth, to see if that
which He had in His heart, He was going to fulfill.
We know today that we can “come boldly to the throne of grace.”
We understand the power of intercession.
If we can embrace what the power of intercession can do–
look at Abraham’s conversation with God:
He knocked down the number to a small amount of righteous
people to withold judgement from an entire nation.
We can learn to intercede for nations.
Remember, after Jesus had risen from the dead, on
the Road to Emmaus.
We’d really be surprised to learn Who is listening in on
Are we communicating faith, victory?
Jesus said, “You slow to believe, didn’t you read what
the prophets had written?”
The disciples on the road, their conversation didn’t believe
the Word of God–it wasn’t full of faith.
And as disciples, we’ve got to keep our faith high.
Point your speech back to the Word of God.
Through Divine, surprise conversation–it is always
a mirror of our own walk with God.
/end Pastor Jeremy
Miss Amy #2
“I just love the fact that [surprise conversations] are so tangible.”
In John 4 it talks about the surprise conversation with
the Samaritan woman.
And at the well, Jesus offered her an opportunity,
The woman’s world was changed completely.
She became an evangelist out of that conversation.
And if you receive the opportunity, God will change your life.
Be sensitive to the surprise conversation.
It’s so unexpected.
God says, “If you’re willing. I’ll show off…!”
Those who ask the questions determine the quality of the conversation.
Jesus opened up the conversation at the well with a question.
If we can be sensitive to what God has for us in surprise conversations.
Pastor Jeremy #2
The surprise conversation of the shepherd men
who went to visit the Baby Jesus.
“And I don’t know about you, but I’m so ready to
embrace the supernatural of God.”
Believe for supernatural conversation and confrontation.
Whether it be for angelic visitation that will help you
find your way in the kingdom.
There are so many “suddenlys”–surprise conversation
is every where.
And through Divine angelic conversation, these men who were
shepherding their flock went and saw Jesus just after he was born.
Perk our ears and perk our sensitivity to supernatural
This is part of the Kingdom:
“you might entertain angels”
Get ready for these kinds of conversations, because
God is always sending information our way.
Everything God does is information.
Open up our minds, open up our hearts for
God to communicate to us Divinely, supernaturally,
swiftly–through people just knocking on our door.
Pastor Jeremy had a surprise conversation 6-7 months
ago when he was in need of money, provision.
He had a car parked in his driveway that he wasn’t using,
and someone, just “out of the blue”–without any promotion
whatsoever–came up to his door and asked him if he was
selling that car. He said, “Well, as a matter of fact, I am…” :-)
And within a few days, the title was signed over, and there
was cash in his hand, and God had met his need.
Through a surprise conversation.
Begin to expect Divine, supernatural, surprise conversation.
It’s how God works, it’s how He will continue.
Expect God to drop people into your life that bring Divine,
supernatural encounter, that will help to correct your life,
supply your need, do whatever is necessary.
God’s going to deliver it to you.
It’s going to come and it’s going to give you the
information that you need. It’ll be the seed of
instruction that you need.
And God’ll do it swiftly, speedily, slipping it right
into your life–give you the surprise encounter
that you need. The Divine instruction that you need.
And He has promised it “to them that believe”.
You look at Dr. Murdock: his life has been full of
surprise conversation. People slipping right up to
him. Seed out of “nowhere” to bless his life.
God is into surprise conversation.
We need to believe.
Let your faith and hope be built because God’s got
your need in mind, and He’s sending to you that
which you need.
Open up your ears and your mind, get your attitude right
that those you’re going to speak with–that God, when He
brings that Divine favor into your life; that you’re
approaching it correctly. And that those that you’re speaking
with, the Divine favor and people that God has appropriated
for your life will slip right in.
Get your expectation high.
It’s the hope, and the Biblical hope that we have–
this expectation for God to slip into your life, from
Our expectation can be high that you will have the conversation
that you need with God, from God, expect the conversation
you need to slip into your life, and God will open every door
that’s necessary for your life.
And it happens through surprise conversation.
We need to bless God for it.
We, by faith, need to embrace it.
God knows exactly where you’re at–what’s going on.
Allow Him to usher it into your life.
Divine, supernatural provision.
Divine, supernatural words, revelation.
God’s got it. We need to expect it.
And expect it through a surpirse conversation.
Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah!
Glory to God, glory to God.
Miss Amy #3
Get excited with anticipation.
One of her greatest surprise conversations was when
she traveled to Monterey, Mexico to be with Dr.
Murdock and the School of Wisdom to support him.
She’d prior spoken to her parents, saying, “I really feel
that the Holy Spirit wants me to go to this meeting.”
So they prayed about it, and talked about it, they
supported her, and she went on that trip.
Going home, she had two options:
1) Go to another city in Mexico where her family was or
2) Go through Dallas / Ft. Worth airport & then goto church
She had just had a surprise conversation with Pastor
Monica Melgar, and Pastor Monica said, “Why don’t you
stay here for the week? We’ll make this week count.”
That week turned into a month, a year–and she never
went back home, but instead made Ft. Worth her new
home, and her parents even packed up her things from
her (old) home in Indianapolis, IN.
It changed her life forever.
There’s so many conversations that soothe, that
heal, that mend–conversations are a minstry.
They’re to ourselves, to each other, to our families.
Conversations are what preserve a relationship.
Conversations are so rich, but yet we take them
for granted–but they’re so profound.
The way God moves…
The way God can place people in our lives.
Church family, as this week is coming to a close, meditate about who the people are that you’re having a surprise conversation with.
Be sensitive to the voice of the Spirit.
Inventory your conversations.
Purge your environment of anything that could diminish those conversations.
Be in your secret place.
So much of what God does is because of our expectation.
God is just looking for a vessel willing to trust in Him.
Expectation is the beginning of our belief in God.
Expectation is necessary.
Believe for the impossible.
Let God be God in that area in your life.
9-10 months ago, God began to deal with Pastor Jeremy about a $1,000 seed. He was in the pulpit of his father’s church and really thought it was about somebody in tge audience. And it was just money that he did not have.
Then a few months later, Pastor Jeremy heard again from God about giving the $1,000 seed. He had just over $1,000 to his name. And he planted the $1,000 seed.
Your seed a schedules Divine, surprise conversation.
Everything God does, He does on a schedule–He is ordered.
After Pastor Jeremy planted that seed, things began to develop.
He got connected to Dr. Mike Smalley through his protege conferences, and eventually got up the courage to ask Dr. Smalley if he’d come and speak at Pastor Jeremy’s church in a small town in Iowa.
And he agreed to come, and Dr. Smalley came and shared and blessed Pastor Jeremy and his church.
About 2 months after Pastor Jeremy had planted the $1,000 seed (into his father’s church), he received a phone call from Dr. Mike Smalley. He had spoken with Pastor Jeremy previously about possibly working with Dr. Murdock, who was a hero to Pastor Jeremy, and he had thought to himself at the time, Well yes, that’d be a dream come true for anybody, to work for one of their dream-heroes.
And through seed that was sown, it created a Divine, surprise, supernatural conversation–to the point where Pastor Jeremy was called up out of nowhere(!) and Dr. Smalley called and said, “Brother Jeremy, can you make it up to The Wisdom Center tomorrow? Dr. Murdock is there and he would love to meet you.”
Pastor Jeremy said, “Yes, sir, I would love to be there!”
And he showed up there the next day, they gave him a time, they had a spot for him to sit, and a meeting with Dr. Murdock was scheduled….!
And his whole world–from a seed–his whole environment was completely, miraculously changed.
God is always the Supplier of surprise conversations.
Ladies and gentlemen, we need to be mindful of the words that we’re saying, because God is listening.
He’s monitoring our faith.
He’s monitoring our doubt.
Everything we do is conversation.
A conversation of our heart to our mind.
[A conversation between our mind, and our decisions]
Everything is conversation.
And as we obey God, He schedules Divine conversation with those that we need to be connected with.
Pay close attention to the conversation that you’re sending forth.
God is looking or grounds to bless us.
[“How much more…?]
But many times we simply have not qualified for his intended blessings.
And Pastor Jeremy’s present life–being connected to Dr. Murdock [teaching and preaching to us on Church By Phone right now]–is all the result of listening to God, and planting a seed.
Seed schedules a Divine conversation.
And we’re thankful for it tonight.
[Dr. Murdock begins speaking]
Dr. Murdock is going to be publishing a book on this material of “a surprise conversation”.
Pastor Kunneman earlier [on Sunday] pulled out Dr. Murdock’s book “A Young Minister’s Handbook”, which he’d written in his mid-thirties. And Pastor Kunneman also pulled out a 1st-edition copy of the book “Dream Seeds”, which Dr. Murdock had written 27 year ago (1986-87).
In that book, Dr. Murdock shares about the conversation that God had with him about the pain that he’d had in his life, and what would come out of it–because he’d wanted to leave the ministry.
There’s thousands of preachers today who have stayed in the ministry, or returned to the ministry, because of a surprise conversation.
And The Lord has emphasized the “positive” side of the surprise conversation, so that’s what we’ll focus on.
You’re one conversation away from a radical change in your life.
Joy is one conversation away.
Ask the woman at the well of Samaria.
The healing of an incurable disease is one conversation away:
– read Dr. Lester Sumerall’s life story
– read Oral Roberts’s story about the healing of his tuberculosis
There was a little house-maiden who lived in the house of Namaan, the Assyrian leper (who was also a General).
The surprise conversation may come from someone who is below your economic standard.
Don’t ever think that mentorship is downward.
Don’t ever think that the protege is inferior to the mentor.
Rather, it has to do with the process of information, knowledge, understanding.
The house-maiden emptied the trash, mopped the floors–but mentored Namaan on how to get his healing.
The surprise conversation came from below the economic standard.
It is a God thing that conversation may come from any direction of your life.
It may come from a child–like Samuel, who heard the voice of God and thought it was the voice of the High Priest, Eli, who was the mentor for Samuel chosen by his mother, Hannah.
By the way, we want to do a shout-out for Hannah Faith Griffin.
That’s Prophet Marquez’s, along with Marguerite, his wife’s beautiful, beautiful baby girl , who was just born.
We decree and declare angels surrounding that child.
But God spoke to the young child, Samuel.
Your conversation may come late at night, when nobody’s around.
You may be the only person that receives that surprise conversation.
A surprise conversation may be regarding the future of somebody that you love.
A surprise conversation may need to be kept discreet, quiet.
Like Jonathan and David, where Jonathan couldn’t tell his father Saul that he knew where David was hiding.
A surprise conversation is always for your protection.